King James did not encourage a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common people. 7 And David dwelt in the castle…. Hello and blessings to ya. The King James Bible stands alone. So do I. I was raised in the Hegewisch neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois, served in the USAF from 1970 to 1974, and became a full-time missionary for Christ living 40 years in Japan, 3.5 years in Russia, and a few months in other countries such as Finland, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, South Korea, Taiwan and mainland China where I also served the King of Kings, Jesus, as an Ambassador for His Kingdom. literally) will incorrectly believe that the Bible is talking about unicorns. The Alexandrian manuscripts are the very texts we call the Septuagint! The supposed text of the Septuagint is found today only in certain manuscripts. How much water did the molten sea contain? If you find this website useful, please consider sending me a gift through PayPal toward the  support of this website’s server fee. Jack: I don't think that's necessary. From the Greek OT–*[[Lev 18:6]] ABP2006 wo cr* The man, a man [to any family member of his flesh shall not draw near] to uncover their indecency. This year marks the 400th anniversary of the printing of the book commonly known in America as the King James Bible. The King James Bible recognized the validity of a monarchy while the Geneva Bible did not. The King James Bible was commissioned, the committee began work. Did they quote it? His librarian, supposedly Demetrius of Phalerum, persuaded Philadelphus to get a copy of the Hebrew Scriptures. Who is pushing the Septuagint? The Protestant Reformation, also known as ‘The Reformation’, lasted through 1648 in Europe and ended with the Peace of Westphalia treaty. Scofield included footnotes in his edition of the KJV, some of which mislead the reader into false doctrine. The Geneva Bible, published in 1560, was the King James Version’s biggest rival. Scholars then claim that Jesus and His apostles used this Greek Bible instead of the preserved Hebrew text. Thank you. God sits on his throne and watches his creation and hes close not distant. Some people have attacked the KJV saying it was based on the Roman Catholic Vultage and / or changed according to the whims of King James of England. No one knows it all but God tells Job in chapter 38 so if ya know my creation and seen foundations set tell me…to say its a psyop is a discredit to those who are saved from it like atheists and lukewarm and many more. The greatest example of a mistranslated prophecy that I know of is Daniel 9:27. Thus the footnotes Protestants used to read were no longer available after the KJV became popular. 10. His sole intent was to deny them the marginal notes of the Geneva Bible. The KJV of the Bible translation is noted for its "majesty of style", and has been described as one of the most important books in English culture and a driving force in the shaping of the English-speaking world. James warmed to a new translation because he despised the then popular Geneva Bible. https://www.jamesjpn.net/eschatology/daniel-927-grossly-mistranslated-in-modern-versions/, https://www.jamesjpn.net/conspiracy/is-the-earth-a-spinning-ball/. All: In my first post on this topic, I took to task the promotion efforts used to market the Geneva Bible. Authors David W. Daniels and Jack McElroy answer questions critics ask about the King James Bible. Also, it was details Reed illegal to print the Geneva Bible and eventually to own one by decree of the King…seems freedom of the press wasn’t a thing in the kingdom. The King James version slowly took over the place of the Geneva Bible had among the Puritans. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying. Some versions have already gone this way. When the King James Bible … Just like it is wrong to say “sexual immorality” (as in modern versions) instead of “adultery” and claim it is for “clarity” when adultery has a specific meaning. First, King James I of England was a devout believer in the "divine right of kings," a philosophy ingrained in … Because the jot is a Hebrew letter, and the tittle is a small mark to distinguish between Hebrew letters. Is it really true that KJV only people are the only ones who swallowed the Mandela effect hoax? Yes, there is no word "trinity" found anywhere in the Bible. You should study it, but it wasn't a study Bible. The Protestant Bible at the time of King James of England was the Geneva Bible. Iesus answered and saide vnto her, If thou knewest that gift of God, and who it is that saieth to thee, Giue mee drinke, thou wouldest haue asked of him, and hee woulde haue giuen thee, But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father, But the houre commeth, and nowe is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit, and trueth: for the Father. “Why?” you ask. literally) will incorrectly believe that the Bible is talking about unicorns. The Geneva Bible is famous for its "margin notes," authored by John Calvin, John Knox and other leaders of the Reformation. Therefore, although the people loved the Bible, the royalty sought to dismiss or even destroy it. Since the messiah and His ancestors were all monarchs this was a valid correction. In marketing, this is known as “brand insistence.” For mightily hee confuted publikely the Iewes, And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to, And nowe brethren, I commend you to God, and to the worde of his grace, which is able to, And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men, And likewise also the men left the naturall vse of the woman, and burned in their lust one toward another, and man with man, For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain, And we know that all things work together, Also we knowe that all thinges worke together, I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? NASA didn’t tell me that, my knowledge of geometry tells me that. They claim that the Septuagint contains true readings not found in the preserved Hebrew text. According to the Roman Catholic Douay Bible: “…the Septuagint, the Greek translation from the original Hebrew, and which contained all the writings now found in the Douay version, as it is called, was the version used by the Saviour and his Apostles and by the Church from her infancy, and translated into Latin, known under the title of Latin Vulgate, and ever recognized as the true version of the written word of God” —Preface,1914 edition. Thus he admits that they are one and the same. The writer of this letter, Aristeas, claims to have been a Greek court official during the time of Philadelphus’ reign. If the Septuagint goes, then the Apocrypha goes with it! And to this day, Catholic authorities reject it, refuse to acknowledge it. He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him. I found this article on http://projectcamelotportal.com/blog/80-william-dean-garner/1923-1850s-switzerland-was-the-jesuits-proving-ground-for-the-establishment-of-today-s-america and wanted to re-post it …, Exposing Illuminati / Jesuit media deceptions. In words in modern English that contain the letter V, the letter U is often substituted. The Geneva Bible had marginal notes … But these Alexandrian manuscripts also include the Septuagint Old Testament (with the Apocrypha). Demetrius was never the librarian under Philadelphus. Adam and Eve were naked in the Garden and they were NOT ashamed! It affected our greatest writers, Shakespeare and Milton. Thus, the Septuagint is claimed to exist at the time of Jesus and the apostles, and that they quoted from it instead of the preserved Hebrew text. Pre-dating the King James Version by 51 years, the Geneva Bible was one of the earliest mass-produced English Bibles commonly available to the public. The Doctrine of the Trinity: Is it Biblical? It was not written before Christ; so it was not used by Jesus or His apostles. I just think it’s interesting to compare the two translations. And there was yet another battell with the Philistims: and Elhanan the sonne of Iair slewe Lahmi, the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spearestaffe was like a weauers beame. There they would translate the Hebrew Scriptures into Greek, forming what we now call the Septuagint. The Geneva Bible is famous for its "margin notes," authored by John Calvin, John Knox and other leaders of the Reformation. “Sexual immorality” is a squishy, slimy, slippery way to speak about it. It helped to cement the choice of creating a new Bible for one uniformed English translation that would represent both King James I and the Church of England’s religious and political views. Not at all! Why is it KJV only people are the only people gullible enough to believe in a phony mandela effect? Sun and moon are very close and just lights as God says. Geometry tells me this indicates the ocean is curved for it to do that. Half of the earth is illuminated by the sun and half of the earth is not illuminated by the sun at ALL times. I am comparing only the changes I personally find interesting. Someone reading the King James Bible today, and taking it at face value (i.e. *OUTLAW Geneva Bible and forbid its use in churches Hence the Pilgrims, in anti-government snit, would not CONSIDER taking a government-paid-for and endorsed translation. This is my observation. An agreement was reached that there should be a revised English translation version of the Bible. Geneva Bible - 1 Kings 7:26 - it conteined two thousand Baths. I don't want to get into all that right now. What is the shame that shall be seen because of nakedness? I reject Mandela effect as I do Flat Earth. Be not deceiued: neither fornicatours, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor, There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will, There hath no tentation taken you, but such as appertaine to man: and God is faithfull, which will not suffer you to be tempted aboue that you be able, but wil euen, Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus, Wherefore, I declare vnto you, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Iesus, Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not, Though I speake with the tongues of men and Angels, and haue not. The sequence is so hopelessly mixed up that Jesus could not possibly have been referring to it! Besides the fact that God himself objected to the demand for a king by the elders of Israel, one Samuel warned against! The Geneva Bible preceded the King James translation by 51 years. I believe there exists a sponsored disinformation program by some government agency to discredit Bible believing Christians. The 1560 Geneva Bible translators were: Walter Whittingham, Myles Coverdale, Christopher Goodman, Anthony Gilby, Thomas Sampson, William Cole, Thomas Greshop and John Knox, with marginal notes created by John Calvin. Yes. King James Bible - 1 Kings 7:26 - it contained 2000 baths King James Bible - 2 Chronicles 4:5 - it received and held 3000 baths. He believes that Bible prophecy should be interpreted with a dispensationalist view in mind. It was finally reprinted by the Tolle Lege Press in January 2004. For neither did his brethren believe in him. And I hope to disprove the notion that KJV is doctrinally different from the Geneva Bible. This speculation is destroyed by the text itself. The translation of Daniel 9:27 is a classic example. Other places of publication eventually included the Netherlands, Scotland, America and England, leading to the publication of the 1560 Geneva Bible in 1575. to uncover [their] nakedness; that is, those parts, which, by a contrary way of speaking, are so called, which should never be naked or exposed to view; but should be always covered, as nature teaches to do, and as our first parents did, when they perceived themselves naked, and were ashamed, Ge 3:7: this phrase signifies the same as to lie with another, or have carnal knowledge of them, wherefore the following laws are generally understood of incestuous marriages; for if such an action is not to be done between persons standing in such a relation, as here in general, and afterwards more particularly described, then there ought to be no intermarriages between them; and if such marriages are forbidden, and such actions unlawful in a married state, then much more in an unmarried one; wherefore the several following instances are so many breaches of the seventh command, Ex 20:14, and so many explications and illustrations of it, and consequently of a moral nature, and binding upon all men, Jews and Gentiles:. Because the established church persecuted those who used the Geneva Bible the term properly translated ‘church’ was translated Congregation and for the same reason, the concept of a Bishop was rejected Was it really inspired by God? So the Geneva Bible makes the same mistake as do many modern translations. So the Septuagint story is a hoax. Let not your heart be troubled. The King James Version of the Bible eliminated the marginal notes that had been a popular feature for those who used them as a study guide in the 1599 Geneva Bible. The marginal notes of the Geneva version were what made it so popular with the common people. So we have textual critics who believe desperately in the 45 Alexandrian manuscripts (against more than 5,000 copies favoring the Textus Receptus). The King James Bible refers to these creatures as unicorns, which, as you say, we think of as mythical creatures. But within 50 years there were very few copies of the Geneva even available. He then proceeded to make his own version of the Bible, but without the marginal notes that had so disturbed him. They have fallen for a trap. Consider for instance, the often-maligned Desidarius Erasmus . The Letter of Aristeas is a hoax that doesn’t even fit the time period in which it claims to have been written. This class is for students of Bible prophecy, and especially of prophecy about the Endtime. I have not found a significant difference in wording in the Geneva Bible that conflicts in doctrine with the KJV. All subsequent Bibles followed suit. contributing to the yearly server and domain name fee of this website. But its circulation threatened the Anglican bishops. You see, the so-called Septuagint is where they got the Apocrypha (books that are not inspired and have no place in our Bibles). This is why the Geneva Bible annoyed King James I. After all, its influence was overwhelming, as were its sales. As the coronation procession of King James of Scotland wound its way southward, Puritan leaders presented the king with the Millenary Petition (so-called because it allegedly bore the signatures of a thousand Puritan ministers). The translators working for King James after 1604, aiming ‘to make a good one, better’ referred to the Geneva versions, and in that wonderful long Preface to KJV, ‘The Translators to the Reader’, quoted Scripture almost always from a Geneva Bible. The writer is lying about his identity. The origin of the King James Version is as follows. Geneva Bible 2 Chronicles 4:5 - it conteined three thousand baths. If one pulls up their skirts over their heads with no underwear, they will be showing what? For many Protestants, all roads are truly leading to Rome. One noted preacher, Chuck Baldwin, doesn’t agree with him! When the Pilgrims first came to America which Bible did they read from, King James or Geneva, and why did they use the one over the other? The translators of all modern Bibles, including the New King James, use the Septuagint along with other texts in translating the Bible. Help, I’ve listened to too many conspiracies that King James was an occultist. So why do we still hear the story? Here is my own study on the Geneva Bible. Their nakedness, they expose their shame. In addition, Jesus only mentioned the scripture text in two ways, (1) “The Law and the Prophets” and (2) “The Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms”: “And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.” Luke 24:44 The Hebrews divide their Bible into three parts: the Law, the Prophets and the Writings. And since the other ancient writers merely add to this story, it is clear that the story itself of a pre-Christian Septuagint is a fraud. The King James version slowly took over the place of the Geneva Bible had among the Puritans. And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said. Geneva Bible, Bishop Bible, the Great Bible, Tyndale, Wycliffe, those English translations PREDATE the KJV. The Geneva Version, first printed in 1560, went through at least 140 printings: it was the Bible that Shakespeare read; it was the version in common use at the time that King James' men undertook their revision. I won’t even include the words of those two verses in this comment. Jesus called King Herod “that fox”, Jesus showed contempt for Pilate’s claim of power, and the Israel’s first anointed king Saul was overthrown by the second anointed king David. I think you are referring to the Mandela Effect. It is the only set of manuscripts to include the Apocrypha mixed in with the books of the Bible, so as to justify the Roman Catholic inclusion of them in their Bibles. Which is wrong? History shows us otherwise. But what is the Septuagint? And they smote him with, ¶Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and, Now when they sawe the boldnes of Peter and Iohn, and vnderstoode that they were vnlearned men, Saying, What shall we do to these men? It was a politically motivated translation. Furthermore, the Old Testament from the 1560 and 1599 Geneva Bible was translated directly from the Greek Old Testament and the Hebrew Septuagint scriptures, while the 1611 King James Version of the Bible was compiled from previous … The footnotes of the Geneva Bible about the first part of Daniel 9:27 say: By the preaching of the Gospel he confirmed his promise first to the Jews, and after to the Gentiles. Reprint of this edition in … Hello TJ. It was the first Bible ever that included chapter and verse numbers! Please someone help me to determine if the following verses are what the KJV always said. The original version was first printed in 1560 with 200 copies being made from the Geneva press up through 1644, split between two versions of the book. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. I …, Reading time 3 minutes.Written by William Dean A. Garner. Douay-Rheims Bible preceded the Authorised Bible in common vernacular. Admittedly, most Pilgrims preferred the Geneva Bible but not all. The text of the Geneva, while close to the King James Bible, shows some variations in selection from Textus Receptus material. Though much of the translation relied heavily upon the earlier translations of William Tyndale and Myles Coverdale, the Geneva Bible was the first English Bible to have the full translation of the complete Old Testament taken straight from the Hebrew writings. Isa 47:3 KJV Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man. The King James Bible refers to these creatures as unicorns, which, as you say, we think of as mythical creatures. This story has been passed around for centuries. Knox and Calvin could not and cannot be dismissed lightly or King James disapproved of the Geneva Bible … In 1604 King James convened the Hampton Court Conference and authorized the start of a new translation of the Bible into English. Example: “lives” = “liues”. The Protestants and Puritan could only choose to stay and live with the oppression, or create another life for themselves in another country. If you are gullible enough to believe that why would anyone take anything else you have to say seriously? It’s called “Cognitive Infiltration”. He claims that he persuaded Eleazar, the high priest, to send with him 72 scholars from Jerusalem to Alexandria, Egypt. They use these to translate all modern New Testaments. Nevertheless David took the castle of Zion, which is the city of David. Please see https://www.jamesjpn.net/conspiracy/is-the-earth-a-spinning-ball/. History shows us otherwise. The Geneva Version, first printed in 1560, went through at least 140 printings: it was the Bible that Shakespeare read; it was the version in common use at the time that King James' men undertook their revision. Then the Scriptures (at least Genesis to Deuteronomy) were translated into the Greek language for the Alexandrian Jews. Please write a comment in reply to him. Contrary to public knowledge, King James did not order a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common man. The reason there is such a thing as “King James Onlyism” is because the King James Bible is the only brand millions of folks insist on. Are there other reasons why they still try to use the Septuagint to find “original readings” that were supposedly “lost from the Hebrew”?. Abraham Lincoln’s views about Rome, the Pope, the Vatican, the Jesuits and their influence on American society. The Geneva did it a few times. Instead of my explaining I checked with John Gill on the subject as well as the LXX. Geneva Bible 2 Chronicles 4:5 - it conteined three thousand baths. 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He thinks the commentaries of the early Protestant reformers such as Matthew Henry are of value. I was therefore intrigued to see what the Geneva Bible has to say. https://brandplucked.webs.com/deficientgeneva.htm, “He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.” Luke 8:8. “Why?” you ask. 1 Chronicles 11:5  And the inhabitants of Jebus said to David, Thou shalt not come hither. Even critical textual scholars admit that the letter is a hoax. Few people know this, but King James I had commissioned a new Bible named after him for political reasons. The king did not participate in the translation of the King James Bible, which was performed over several years by a well-organized team of about four dozen scholars on a committee basis. A fundamental Baptist preacher I met in Guam doesn’t agree with the eschatology of the Protestant reformers as stated above. The Rejection of the “Seditious” Geneva Bible by King James I. I really do need someone’s help to sort through this. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of, Though hee honour not his father, or his mother, shalbe free: thus haue ye made the commandement of God of. 345-283) served in the court of Ptolemy Soter. Someone reading the King James Bible today, and taking it at face value (i.e. For the New Testament we have the 5,000-plus manuscripts in Greek, plus the many early translations spread abroad, to witness to the actual words of Christ and His apostles. If you like this article and my work on this website, you can show your appreciation by contributing to the yearly server and domain name fee of this website. Prominent Bible Commentators, Famous Preacher and American Politician, Chuck Baldwin, changes his position on the 70th Week of Daniel and the State of Israel, Daniel 9:27 Grossly Mistranslated in Modern Versions, 1850s Switzerland Was The Jesuits’ Proving Ground For The Establishment Of Today’s America, Romanism and the Reformation – H. 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